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Halloween: Lack of Common Sense
Update:
Halloween sign edict banned by judge
Update: Steve Sojka has said that the Council needs more common sense and says
that it is going to cost a lot of money to defend this law.
Steve Sojka article.
The question is why did he vote for it.
Typically I don't agree with Barbra Williamson,
but in the case of the
Simi Valley Halloween ordinance,
I have to agree that the right thing to do was to vote against it.
This is just another example of the Council not doing the right thing,
in the right way.
It has been reported in the newspapers that Mayor Bob Huber pushed this law.
He is an attorney,
so I have no idea as to why he would push and vote for such a poorly written
law.
Sadly,
many people will instantly react badly to any negative comments on the law,
instead of reasonably and rationally looking at the issue.
This is also an example of how the Council uses emotional issues to their own
favor.
5-43.03 -- Halloween, Restrictions on Conduct
Any sex offender, as defined herein, shall be required, between 12:00 a.m. and
11:59 p.m., on October 31 of each year to do the following:
(a) Post a sign, no smaller than twelve (12) inches by twenty-four (24) inches,
with a font size no smaller than 72 pounts, on the front door as his or her
residence stating, "No candy or treats at this residence." This requirement
shall only apply to sex offenders who: i) are visible on the Megan's law
website, as maintained by the State of California Department of Justice, Office
of Attorney General; and ii) have been criminally prosecuted and convicted of a
sex crime(s) upon a child, as defined herein.
(b) Leave all exterior residential, decorative, and ornimental lighting off
during the evening hours starting at 5:00 p.m. until midnight, the next day;
(c) Refrain from decorating his or her front yard and exterior of the residence
with Halloween decorations;
(d) Refrain from answering the door to children who are trick or treating.
It is poorly written and shows that there is a complete lack of common sense
with the Simi Valley City Council.
Please note that the law does not say that the lights have to be off,
just that the person on the list has to leave them off,
meaning that automated devices or other people can turn them on.
Also,
there is NOTHING in the law which prohibits the person from giving out treats,
they are ONLY prevented from ANSWERING the door.
There is NOTHING in the law which prevents the house from having decorations,
only that the person must refrain from decorating on October 31.
Laws are not about what they intend to do,
but what is actually written.
If the house has lights on and is decorated,
how do you prove who did it and when?
While the concept means well,
that is not enough to justify a bad law.
I also suspect that the law was pushed through due to the election coming up.
It was mentioned that this issue came up from citizens.
I have to wonder who exactly these people were
and why the Council did not seem to care the the Chief of Police said that this
has never been an issue.
Are those people campaign donors?
Friends?
And why is it that it does not seem that the Council is able to say that this
does not appear to be an issue?
Oh,
it must be because the Council has to look like they are doing something,
especially just before an election.
It is also quite clear that the City of Simi Valley does not care about the
cost to defend a lawsuit regarding this issue.
It is free money after all,
or at least that seems to be the way they view tax payer money.
I personally spoke to Mike Judge about this law and his responses were
interesting.
I asked about what if the person was out of town.
Mr. Judge replied that the person could inform the police,
but the problem is that is not written into the law.
This means that the person could be charged with a violation when they are not
even around.
It also means that if the person put up a sign and left town,
but someone stole the sign,
they could also be charged.
Mr. Judge did not care about any of the issues and told me that he would prefer
that those people leave the City.
In other words,
the law is about trying to drive them out of town.
Mr. Judge also did not care of the effect of anyone else living at that
location.
Now, let's talk about safety and security.
The law states that the person must leave ALL exterior residential lights off
starting at 5pm until midnight the next day.
So,
that means that the person can't have a light on at all,
which could be hazardous if they come home when it dark.
Automatic lights would have to also be disabled,
since that would be a violation if the light came on.
Often the police recommend having outside lights since criminals tend to like
dark places since it makes them easier to hide,
that that is also a security issue.
Motion sensor lights can warn others about criminals wandering around places.
Also, one could ask when midnight the next day is.
It could be viewed as being on 01-Nov, 11:59:59 pm,
which is the next day,
not until midnight that night.
Then again,
since the law only applies to October 31st,
it might actually mean midnight that night,
not the next day.
Yet another sign of how poorly written the law is.
Another example of how badly this law is written is that since aspects in the
law are limited to ONLY October 31.
This means that the person can not decorate their house with Halloween
decorations on the 31st, but they can do prior to that.
There is no requirement that have not have any decorations on the 31st of
October.
The law also does not prevent others from decorating the house either.
The law also says the the person must refrain from decorating his or her front
yard.
If the person lives with others,
then those people can still decorate the yard since only the person on the list
is prohibited.
Is it legal,
or right,
to prevent others who live at the same address to not be able to give out
treats to children?
This law would not affect others living at the house,
so it seems like it could easily be a problem for enforcement of the law.
The police would need to prove who did the decorating.
It is also quite interesting that the law prevents the person from answering
the door to children who are trick or treating,
which means that the person could sit out on their front porch, their driveway
or anywhere else as long as they don't answer the door.
I have to wonder about the sign requirements as well.
If the person is renting a room,
which door is required to have the sign on it?
How about if the person is renting a guest house?
There are many aspect to this law which should have been resolved before it was
passed,
but the Council was in a mad rush to get this done before Halloween.
In all the years prior,
why did it need to get done this Halloween?
Is it because things are not looking good for the incumbents?
The only aspect which is reasonable is to prevent such a person from answering
the door to children who are trick or treating,
but the simple fact is that it was reported that there have been no cases in
which this has even been an issue.
So,
what is the real reason for this new law?
Personally,
it sounds like it is to help those on Council to get re-elected by people who
don't know what the law really is
nor what it really means.
Comments from Mike Judge
There has been a discussion on facebook about the law,
including Mike Judge, a Simi Valley Council member.
He posted a picture which says "Forget CHANGE, Bring Back Common Sense",
which is really needed,
especially with respect to Simi Valley City Council.
What I find quite interesting is that he does not want to discuss the actual
issues with the law and when backed into an corner about it,
it resorts to trying to attack the person asking serious questions.
It shows that he has to defend his mistake at any cost and can't admit that it
was a big mistake to vote for such a poorly written law.
Below is his original response.
He edited the response and removed the "Listen Up!",
perhaps because it showed his arrogant,
agressive attitude.
Mike Judge mentioned you in a comment in Simi Valley Letters to the Editor.
Listen up! Halloween is the one night out of the year where a PEDO has his
treats delivered to his door. People have said "well there has never been a
PEDO crime on Halloween.” #1 I don't buy that and #2 who's to say that the PEDO
doesn't use this night to find his next victim. Have you ever seen men taking
pictures of children that come to the door? To the uniformed that is an
innocent activity “Taking Pictures of the little girls dressed up as little bo
peep or a pretty ballerina cute stuff right? Wrong. To the PEDO this is HOT
Stuff, Penthouse material stuff for him do you understand now. So what do
think about the common sense of the Ordinance now?Ken Sandberg.
I responded with:
Mike Judge, the law is POORLY written, to say the least and ALL of your
justifications will never change that. I have not seen men taking pictures of
children coming to the door, have you? Use some common sense and look how bad
the law is. Can the person decorate their house? Yes, just not on October 31.
Can the person give out treats? Yes, they just can't answer the door, but they
can sit outside. So, please support your claims that any of that happens.
Perhaps it does, but do you have ANY evidence that it actually does? Yes, you
do look at things differently than me since you voted for a really poorly
written law and think that it really does something. The person on the list
could go to another house and you would never know it, so you silly little law
really doesn't do anything, other than Council members trying to make it look
like you are doing something. It is also going to cost the City money due to
the lawsuit. Where is the common sense?
Below is his response.
Please note that he does not attempt to address any of the issues nor answer
any of the questions.
Mr. Judge is clearly better than everyone else since even though no one knows
of a crime due to children going to a house on Halloween,
he doesn't buy that.
He KNOWS it is an issue and facts will not change his opinion.
Notice the Mr. Judge claims that there are men taking pictures of children that
come to the door,
but when asked to back that statement up,
he is completely silent.
It sounds like he is just making things up out of whole cloth.
For some odd reason Mr. Judge seems to think that unless a person has children,
goes trick or treating or has experience enforcing the law that they should not
have any opinion on the "wonderful" work the Council did with this law.
Remember, Mr. Judge is a LAPD officer,
so perhaps that explains his arrogant, agressive attitude towards people.
He is the judge and jury on this matter,
without any real facts and refuses to back up any of his statements.
Perhaps we should call him "Judge Dredd" with his attitude.
Mike Judge mentioned you in a comment in Simi Valley Letters to the Editor.
Ken Sandberg Do you have Children? Do you go trick or treating? Do you have any
experience enforcing the law?
What does this have to do with the issues?
Nothing!!
What it does show is that Mike Judge can't defend his position and is willing
to do anything in order to not to admit that he made a mistake.
I wrote:
Hey, it seems that Mike edited his original message, which started with "Listen
up!". I guess even he did not like the tone of that as his attitude was
showing. Common sense? I think not. Mike, make your benefits the SAME as you
voted for and then perhaps it might show that you have some common sense.
He then responded with:
Mike Judge mentioned you in a comment in Simi Valley Letters to the Editor.
Spin it Ken, Spin it. You speak of things you know nothing about as though you
do. keep spinning Ken.
He never answered any of the question nor addressed any of the issue.
He claim that I am "spinning" it is absurd and without any merit.
I am bringing up the issue with the law,
how is that spinning anything?
This is the problem with the Simi Valley City Council,
they are lacking in common sense and are not able to do the right thing,
in the right way.
It shocks me that Mike Judge, a LAPD Officer,
would consider that such a law could be enforced.
Perhaps he does not care what a bogus arrest would do to a person,
nor the cost to defend against a bogus charge,
not to mention the total cost to everyone involved.
To paraphrase a line from a movie, Mike Judge can't handle the truth.
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